Ironman 192 Posted April 15, 2021 6 hours ago, Cuchculan said: Exactly. Sped up is the right words. Fastest ever vaccine was for Ebola and that took about 4 years. So this was really sped up to get it out there. Lot of countries refusing certain vaccines because of the whole blood clot thing. Which was either not found in their tests or found but no mentioned. Not here to put anybody off the vaccine. They have a choice to make. Now more facts are been found out. They can make their choice knowing what they know now. Which is something they did know when the vaccine first came out. They are trying to figure out happened with the blood clotting issue. One of the things I heard is that the blood clotting chances go up if you have already had the virus and get vaccinated or something like that. It's a very small percentage. They are also testing the theory of mother-to-child immunity. With the rush of time, this is really expected - kind of light compared to what it could be. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iugrad91 501 Posted April 15, 2021 6 out of 7 million is such a minuscule risk, you have much higher risk of an adverse even of taking any other drug on the planet. The pause of the J&J vaccine is not because it isn’t safe, it is because they want to make sure they have accurate treatment info for anyone who might have this rare reaction. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MARC 429 Posted April 16, 2021 There is risk with any vaccine or prescription medication. The key is does the benefit outweigh the risk. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrightPhoenix 78 Posted April 19, 2021 On 4/14/2021 at 7:47 AM, Bobnnat said: Bright, not sure of your situation, but isn’t it more likely you’ll get another vaccine rather than the J&J? As for the clots, 6 people in over 6,000,000 shots given means 1 chance in 1,000,000 and like you said, all were women. I don’t know for certain, but these women, at least some were likely on birth control pills, which in and of themselves raise clot risks. I’m as anxious a person as they come, but I wouldn’t hesitate to get the JJ or Astra Zeneca if offered to me. Just so happens I got Phizer. Reason why I posted was because I got the J&J shot on purpose because of its similarities to the tech used in the Ebola shot, which was supposed to be at least "tested" tech. I got it as a personal decision because of the fact I'm in a couple risk groups that would have worse consequences if I were to get COVID. I'm sure it's minuscule but I really don't like how sped up this whole process is. I got all my other vaccines, it's just the rate at which this one was sped up is my issue with it. I hope they figure out the risks for this one, because there's a lot of bad news about the AstraZeneca one and the process around it. As long as we have a personal choice and control over which one we can get I'm ok with it, but this stuff isn't exactly good for us hypochondriac types. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ironman 192 Posted April 20, 2021 I waited 34 days before I got notification that they are ready to vaccinate me. I don't know which one it is - but it isn't J&J due to the halt. My appointment is today at 1:30pm I don't even mind having to take the third shot as a booster in the fall if need be. I got my very first flu shot last year as the Corona was starting up. It's not a big deal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbhaga01 29 Posted April 20, 2021 I'm three weeks out from my second Pfizer shot. So is my wife. Other than feeling like someone had taken a baseball bat to our arms for a day or so, we're absolutely fine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zazz 20 Posted April 23, 2021 My sister and mother have both gotten it. One of the two-shot ones. They said the only thing was that they had a sore arm the day after, which is pretty standard for any vaccine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shanowl80 73 Posted May 8, 2021 My doctor has actually advised against the vaccine as of now. She has not gotten it and said many of her colleagues have also decided to wait. So, I will wait a while. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ironman 192 Posted May 8, 2021 On 4/20/2021 at 4:52 PM, cbhaga01 said: I'm three weeks out from my second Pfizer shot. So is my wife. Other than feeling like someone had taken a baseball bat to our arms for a day or so, we're absolutely fine. How did it go? I ended up getting the Pfizer. Muscle soreness for the day, but that's happened with allergy shots to me - she went through muscle no big deal. I just got notified for my second vaccine today, so I have to schedule it. Unfortunately, for me, I have to fill in for a coworker who decided to go on vacation (although she has been ranting to me about our boss for several weeks, so I think she may need it lol), then I have to lead my men's group this week, and then taxes (which I started tonight, so I think I will be okay here). I may wait until Wednesday this time instead of going for Tuesday since Tuesday night is my group.....just in case. I heard there were side effects with the second dose, but not with Pfizer??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MARC 429 Posted May 8, 2021 I had my second Pfizer shot yesterday and my arm is sore today. My physician advised me to get the shot. A number of my clients and friends are physicians and they all got their shots. I used to not get the flu shot and then I got the flu and I was very sick. That was a wake up call for me and I have gotten the flu shot ever since. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MARC 429 Posted May 8, 2021 I also decided on getting the vaccine because because 3 of my friends got pretty sick from COVID and another of my friends father passed away from it. I know someone else who is 70 and she believes the whole thing is a hoax and refuses to get the shot. To each their own. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ironman 192 Posted May 8, 2021 8 hours ago, MARC said: I had my second Pfizer shot yesterday and my arm is sore today. My physician advised me to get the shot. A number of my clients and friends are physicians and they all got their shots. I used to not get the flu shot and then I got the flu and I was very sick. That was a wake up call for me and I have gotten the flu shot ever since. You'll have to post about side effects. I haven't scheduled yet :( I have been working from home, so it's been a blessing on my car....and me! I got my very first flu shot last year when I saw the state flu map go almost all purple - Widespread flu.....then Corona hit and it took over. At least if I had caught something, I could rule out what the flu shot had. 7 hours ago, MARC said: I also decided on getting the vaccine because because 3 of my friends got pretty sick from COVID and another of my friends father passed away from it. I know someone else who is 70 and she believes the whole thing is a hoax and refuses to get the shot. To each their own. There is a lot of that hoax crap. I am Christian and have even heard about people saying there are baby body parts or DNA stuff, and even Mark of the Beast in the shot. I am like, people, Read Revelations again - the Mark of the Beast specifically says it is in the hand or forehead and that who doesn't take it can't do business and all that - that "vaccine passport" is probably where they are getting it. It's a completely different issue. We are counted to make sure the CDC knows the demographic and the count of people vaccinated. I waited as long as I did because I knew there were people who needed it more than me. My age group has among the most cases, but fewest hospitalizations and NO deaths! My aunt and uncle are in their late 80s - they should have been first in line, but my mother in her 70s got it for being in an assisted living home. They were all completely vaccinated by the end of January. My stepmother (married to my dad - I can't believe I have specify that in the today's world) was completely vaccinated by the first day of Spring. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MARC 429 Posted May 9, 2021 I got the second dose of the Pfizer vaccine on Friday morning and my arm hurt a fair amount for a while and still hurts to the touch today. I was very very tired yesterday but still worked in my office. I am still a bit tired today and my temperature went up to 99.4 yesterday for a while. I took one extra strength Tylenol yesterday for a tiny headache. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ironman 192 Posted May 9, 2021 10 hours ago, MARC said: I got the second dose of the Pfizer vaccine on Friday morning and my arm hurt a fair amount for a while and still hurts to the touch today. I was very very tired yesterday but still worked in my office. I am still a bit tired today and my temperature went up to 99.4 yesterday for a while. I took one extra strength Tylenol yesterday for a tiny headache. That's not too bad. My stepmom told me that my stepdaughter had a 103F fever and felt awful for three days after her second shot (probably Moderna as that is the prevailing rumor). I completely forgot that with the Pfizer vaccine, we are not supposed to take ibuprofen if pain arises. I am glad you posted - I will have to buy some Tylenol. All I have is ibuprofen at the moment. I haven't scheduled yet - my mother is top priority today :). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davide.h 26 Posted May 24, 2021 Has anyone ever died of Covid after getting the vaccine? Cause of the other variants. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davide.h 26 Posted May 24, 2021 Related, but I remember saying to someone last year that I imagined myself having Covid "flashbacks" in the years to come. Similar to PTSD and wondered if others with bad anxiety might feel the same. I almost feel they are happening already. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ironman 192 Posted May 24, 2021 11 hours ago, davide.h said: Related, but I remember saying to someone last year that I imagined myself having Covid "flashbacks" in the years to come. Similar to PTSD and wondered if others with bad anxiety might feel the same. I almost feel they are happening already. PTSD for a vaccine like this is a stretch, though. I mean, is one inoculation (and we have had many in our lifetime) really that scary? If there are flashbacks to Corona, there is something else going on. I know depression has been rising, but that's due to what we went through with the pandemic, but a vaccine. We will have stories to tell our children, but not PTSD-caliber. 11 hours ago, davide.h said: Has anyone ever died of Covid after getting the vaccine? Cause of the other variants. Of the Corona vaccine itself? No. There were other complications that the person already had. Blood clotting issue was likely the main cause, but if you aren't even on blood thinners, then I don't think this is a problem. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wonky 92 Posted May 24, 2021 On 4/19/2021 at 6:56 PM, BrightPhoenix said: Reason why I posted was because I got the J&J shot on purpose because of its similarities to the tech used in the Ebola shot, which was supposed to be at least "tested" tech. I got it as a personal decision because of the fact I'm in a couple risk groups that would have worse consequences if I were to get COVID. I'm sure it's minuscule but I really don't like how sped up this whole process is. I got all my other vaccines, it's just the rate at which this one was sped up is my issue with it. I hope they figure out the risks for this one, because there's a lot of bad news about the AstraZeneca one and the process around it. As long as we have a personal choice and control over which one we can get I'm ok with it, but this stuff isn't exactly good for us hypochondriac types. I got the J&J one for similar reasons (and my doctor pushed for it) since I have immune issues. Honestly, that risk they share is so low, and I’m extremely glad I got the shot. To feel less anxious in public, knowing your safe - is a freeing feeling. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davide.h 26 Posted May 24, 2021 32 minutes ago, Ironman said: PTSD for a vaccine like this is a stretch, though. I mean, is one inoculation (and we have had many in our lifetime) really that scary? If there are flashbacks to Corona, there is something else going on. I know depression has been rising, but that's due to what we went through with the pandemic, but a vaccine. We will have stories to tell our children, but not PTSD-caliber. Of the Corona vaccine itself? No. There were other complications that the person already had. Blood clotting issue was likely the main cause, but if you aren't even on blood thinners, then I don't think this is a problem. Not the vaccine, I meant from the pandemic itself. It was a stressful time for everyone and I imagine some getting worried that it might come back or have nightmares about it or something. I've said before I get a slight twinge of anxiety seeing a picture of a crowd of unmasked people even if that picture was taken before the pandemic! Maybe that's weird. I just feel that even after this thing is over the mental scars will take years to heal. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MotherOfMaya 18 Posted May 25, 2021 20 hours ago, davide.h said: Has anyone ever died of Covid after getting the vaccine? Cause of the other variants. Yes, but not because of "variants" but because no vaccine is 100 percent effective. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ironman 192 Posted May 25, 2021 8 hours ago, davide.h said: Not the vaccine, I meant from the pandemic itself. It was a stressful time for everyone and I imagine some getting worried that it might come back or have nightmares about it or something. I've said before I get a slight twinge of anxiety seeing a picture of a crowd of unmasked people even if that picture was taken before the pandemic! Maybe that's weird. I just feel that even after this thing is over the mental scars will take years to heal. Certainly. Education suffered the most. I am so used to being isolated that it wasn't as much of an adjustment. The more social one is, the more the difficulty. How we think determines how we feel. It's all in the approach. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites