Longest commute ever!!!!

[anthonycain 15]

Today I went out and about to take care of some things, but it ended up with me hunched over in a coffee shop trying yo breathe...I was good for the first half of the morning but suddenly around noon I started to feel a little tired... Then I began to have a headache.. then the headache turned into shallow breathing... Before I know it, I was dizzy, my legs were weak .. I felt like I couldn't get a decent breath in...This is the type of things I have to deal with all the time... Now I know anxiety has many symptoms... But sometimes it just doesn't feel like anxiety... It's almost as if it's a real heart or breathing problem... But the doctors say I'm fine .... I know they may be right but I don't trust them anyway.. the never seem to know much to begin with...I don't care what degrees they may have.. the feed us the same medications that turns around and makes us sick... So I just want to find a hollistic doctor who can use herbs and proper nutrition to get me to my optimal health. 

[ZELDA 52]

Two on the same boat. Have you tried cognitive behavior therapy? It works for some people. You could try it if you dont like medications.

[jonathan123 2368]

On ‎24‎/‎01‎/‎2018 at 9:04 PM, anthonycain said:

Today I went out and about to take care of some things, but it ended up with me hunched over in a coffee shop trying yo breathe...I was good for the first half of the morning but suddenly around noon I started to feel a little tired... Then I began to have a headache.. then the headache turned into shallow breathing... Before I know it, I was dizzy, my legs were weak .. I felt like I couldn't get a decent breath in...This is the type of things I have to deal with all the time... Now I know anxiety has many symptoms... But sometimes it just doesn't feel like anxiety... It's almost as if it's a real heart or breathing problem... But the doctors say I'm fine .... I know they may be right but I don't trust them anyway.. the never seem to know much to begin with...I don't care what degrees they may have.. the feed us the same medications that turns around and makes us sick... So I just want to find a hollistic doctor who can use herbs and proper nutrition to get me to my optimal health. 

Oh dear! What strange things anxiety does to us and our thinking. The doctors say you are fine but you don't believe them Why not? Because disbelief, doubt, nervous anticipation are all part of anxiety. You don't care how many degrees they have! So five years in medical school, three years internship and possibly many years in practise mean nothing? I admit that when it comes to anxiety they don't know a lot, and most would admit to that, but medical diagnosis is different, and that they are good at it.  

So I just want to find a hollistic doctor who can use herbs and proper nutrition to get me to my optimal health. 

Yes! And wouldn't we all. But that animal is a rare and expensive species. Not many around in the UK at least. Homeopathy, acupuncture, hypnotherapy can all help anxiety, but there is no medication or physical therapy that will 'cure' anxiety because the problem lies in the mind, and often deep in the unconscious. Talking therapies such as good counselling takes time and often money, and it's not always easy to get but it's the most effective treatment if combined with short term medication. It does take time and effort to recover. Time most of us have, but effort? It's much easier to swallow pills than to make a real effort to recover. Being human we look for the easy way out which is not always the best way.

 

[anthonycain 15]

On 1/26/2018 at 6:03 AM, jonathan123 said:

Oh dear! What strange things anxiety does to us and our thinking. The doctors say you are fine but you don't believe them Why not? Because disbelief, doubt, nervous anticipation are all part of anxiety. You don't care how many degrees they have! So five years in medical school, three years internship and possibly many years in practise mean nothing? I admit that when it comes to anxiety they don't know a lot, and most would admit to that, but medical diagnosis is different, and that they are good at it.  

So I just want to find a hollistic doctor who can use herbs and proper nutrition to get me to my optimal health. 

Yes! And wouldn't we all. But that animal is a rare and expensive species. Not many around in the UK at least. Homeopathy, acupuncture, hypnotherapy can all help anxiety, but there is no medication or physical therapy that will 'cure' anxiety because the problem lies in the mind, and often deep in the unconscious. Talking therapies such as good counselling takes time and often money, and it's not always easy to get but it's the most effective treatment if combined with short term medication. It does take time and effort to recover. Time most of us have, but effort? It's much easier to swallow pills than to make a real effort to recover. Being human we look for the easy way out which is not always the best way.

 

I respect the journey that a doctor has to undergo as far as academia... But in these days and times I find the medical establishment to be quite inadequate in their understandings, and not so much that they don't understand but maybe they just don't care.. it's all about a paycheck... They are quick to unload all of the various pills and toxic "medicine" on us , meanwhile they are not attacking the root cause of the issue, but rather just putting bandaids over the wounds and acting as if it's not there until the problem becomes a bigger issue...with anxiety, the first thing they want to ask everyone is if we want to hurt ourselves. Now I get that sometimes the depression that is often associated with anxiety has various effects on people and some may have thoughts of hurting themselves, but that's not the issue for everyone... I don't need antidepressants...I don't need a bunch of pills to drug me up and kill my liver n kidneys.. I need a hollistic approach to getting my body back in balance so that it can heal itself over time.. I need a proper diet change.. I need mental tools to change my anxiety rigged cycle... I need emotional balance... That's what kind of help I need.. I need sites like this to connect with others who are suffering just like me, so I can change my thinking of feeling all alone... Idk about the U.K but the U.S has a broken medical system that at times is doing more harm than good, despite all their technological advances and academic systems put in place. I always follow the money... And the money always leads to the source of the issue.. and it's clear... It's too much money to be made from our ailments, the business Moto was never to heal us, but rather sustain us.  Some may feel different but I have seen what the medical establishment has done to my family and friends.. And I have seen the benefits of those who sought out alternatives and took matters in their own hands.

[jonathan123 2368]

Hi. AC. Well of course I understand what you are saying, and I have every sympathy with your remarks. I suppose my views are different from yours in regard to medics because, in the UK, there is no profit in it for doctors, unless in private practise. The NHS doctors are paid a salary so they don't send you for unnecessary tests just to make money. Hospitals are also composed of salaried staff from student nurses to consultants. Once again, there's no money to be made. OK, so the NHS has its faults, but by and large it is based on care and not profit. I have talked to people on here from the US who have been without medication because their insurance has run out. It's inconceivable to me that the richest country in the world can't provide better care. But it's not for me, a non US citizen, to comment as to why. That's for you folk who suffer from the system. I can also understand you cynicism.

the business Moto was never to heal us, but rather sustain us.

It certainly sounds that way. But one thing we may have in common and that is the pharmaceutical companies who rob us blind. The drug bill in the UK is enormous, and although paid for by government, is way above what it should be. Doctors are not allowed any more to accept bribes like holidays to prescribe certain drugs as they used to be. I also agree with you that a holistic approach is far better than prescribed drugs, but even here it's difficult to find alternative practitioners and they can be expensive. They talk about 'Complementary medicine' which compliments doctors  treatment. To me that's not the way. Alternative means what it says. The other factor is cost. Anything that's not in the NHS does cost, Although some forms of chiropractic and osteopathy are available on the NHS as is CBT treatment. Yours is a cry from the heart and I do know what you mean.