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    Uncontrollable panic attacks

    Hi Hanna. Panic can be so tiring and the feeling of exhaustion can be overwhelming. A tiredness beyond tiredness! What is causing so much stress in your life? Everything has a cause. Cause and effect are as much in anxiety as in physics, there is no effect (panic) without a cause. Can you pinpoint the cause? Do you expect and fear the panic? Being in a constant state of alert to the possibility of panic can make and keep you stressed and vulnerable to more panic. Your doctor may be thinking along the lines that although medication can be helpful with the symptoms, there is no 'cure' for anxiety in pills. It's the mind that needs addressing. Now I'm going to suggest a book, available on Amazon. It's by a Dr.Claire Weekes and is called 'Essential help for your Nerves'. Dr. Weekes is no longer with us, but she was considered an expert on nervous illness. Now as difficult as it may seem, and I know only too well, believe me, I want you to take deep breaths when panic comes and LET IT COME! Yes and I mean let it. No fighting or struggling with it. By being afraid of it and trying to get rid of it you increase the fear which perpetuates the problem. There is always a limit to a panic attack. There must be because you use up all the adrenaline with one attack and your body has to have more for another one, so there will always be a calming down period. Now when a panic happens don't add SECOND FEAR! That's the OMG's and the 'What ifs'. Allow it to happen without comment. I know, I know just how difficult it can be, but ACCEPTANCE is the key. Go with it without fearing it. Bend with the wind. Let it all happen but look into the deep self you are and know it's anxiety. YOU, the you deep down knows this but fear is overriding reason. It's all smoke and mirrors. You are NOT going crazy. No way! You are NOT alone. So many on this site suffer or have suffered from panic and many have found ways to overcome it. We all speak from experience. There is no substitute for having been there. You may be able to help others later because what you are going through can be turned into a learning experience about yourself and your lifestyle. Best wishes.
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    Swallowed toothpaste HELP

    Rachel. There is nothing whatsoever in toothpaste that could possibly cause any harm NOTHING!!! Got it? The manufacturers see to that. Even small kids have their teeth brushed with it and some swallow it. It's your anxiety doing this to you not the toothpaste! Take it easy. You are working yourself up into a state. Take deep breaths. YOU ARE NOT GOING TO DIE. NO WAY!!! If everyone who swallowed toothpaste died there would be few people left. TRY and relax. Lie down, take deep breaths and realise it's what anxiety does, nothing more. You are OK. Go slowly and try and understand that you are doing this to yourself with fear and worry. Come back when you want and let us know how you are. There are many here who are going through the same thing as you so you are not alone. Try and just ACCEPT how you feel without being afraid of it. It's the fear of fear that causes the nasty feelings. Blessings and take it easy.
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    Can you describe your panic attacks

    I am not saying this applies to everyone, but the mistake most of us make is thinking that attacks are not normal, THEY ARE A NORMAL REACTION TO FEAR! Your body is responding to signals of danger in a perfectly normal way. It's not at all pleasant, but it is normal. Oh Yeah, I hear you say!! It works like this. You FEAR a panic attack which lays the foundation for one. The mind then communicates with the brain and sends signals of 'danger'. The brain obeys it's master, the mind, and responds by telling the adrenal glands to prepare for the old fight/flight syndrome. Now all the systems are working perfectly normally when danger threatens. But it's the fear of the fear that begins it all. We have got lumbered with caveman's fight/flight mechanism, but in modern society it doesn't work. We can't run or fight so the feelings turn in on us and we feel panic. We panic because we can't get away from the danger because we can't fight or run. Imagine being chased by a Sabre Toothed Tiger, as caveman was. What do you do? You run like hell if you have any sense. Do you run when you feel panic? HE dissipated his nervous energy, we don't or can't! I feel like I've run a marathon just sitting still. Well you have, in you mind. Is it surprising you feel exhausted? You can't get rid of all that nervous energy by just sitting still, but you can if you just let it come. OK, so it sounds silly, but it's not. Panic always has a limited time span because there is just so much adrenaline in the body. The longer it takes is because you are afraid of the feelings and, once again, fear comes into it and perpetuates the emotions. It last longer because instead of letting it come and not fighting and struggling with 'IT' or trying to get rid of 'IT', you allow it to happen without comment. But most of us when we panic add 'second fear'.That's the OMG's and the 'what ifs'. Second fear reinforces the first wave of panic and so it goes on until it wears off. So when you feel panic coming STOP, if you can. Let it sweep over you with total ACCEPTANCE. No adding more fear by being afraid of it. It can't harm you and will always pass. Acceptance takes time, and eventually you may well panic but it won't matter. You will not add fuel to the fire so it will die down quicker. It's all a matter of time and perseverance.
  4. Oh dear! You are making a big issue out of something that is normal in anxiety. I am NOT minimising how you feel, God knows I have been there. I suspect you have been Googling symptoms because of all the technical words you use. I am not a doctor so they are all meaningless to me and, I suspect to you. One of the most difficult things to understand in anxiety is that it can mimic ANY KNOWN DISEASE!!! Even very serious ones. Many finish up haunting A&E (ER) hospitals because they just won't recognise that fact. Now if your memory is that bad how come you have written 16 perfectly legible posts? Good English and spelling! You have not forgotten what you forgot! You remember all the lapses, but don't relate to the rest of the things you didn't forget! That is typical anxiety. I fear the memory issues I listed are too severe to be anxiety related. People with anxiety don't get confused like that, That is what you said earlier and you are wrong. They do!!! Very much so. You are in denial about your symptoms. Confusion is very common in anxiety and is the result of a tired mind in a sensitised body. The more you flog yourself believing lies about how you feel the worse it will get. You add confusion to confusion and end up doubting yourself and your sanity. Break the habit of negative thinking. Not easy? Of course not, what is easy in anxiety, but given the will and perseverance and ACCEPTANCE it can be done.
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    Skipped Beats

    hI. Henby. Welcome to AC. . Now you have been told by experts that you are OK! BELIEVE THEM. No second guessing. You have to trust them, there is no alternative. Missed or 'skipped' heart beats are not actually missed beats, but the heart giving and extra one to make up for a lost one. I have had this on and off for over twenty years and I'm still around!! At first, when you don't know what it is it can be very frightening. It frightened me and what with palpitations tipped me over the edge into a good old dose of GAD. It took a long time to realise that the so called 'missed' beats are harmless. I often had them all day on and off. I was reassured by doctors but did I believe them. Oh no!!! I was sure they had missed something or had got it wrong in some way. Now this is typical health anxiety, and if we are to recover we must realise it's the mind not the body that's the problem. It's how we think and the negative attitudes we adopt in anxiety that cause the suffering. If you can ACCEPT the feelings without adding more fear you will gradually lose the problem. But it takes time. You have sensitised yourself by the worry and fear and it takes time to settle down again. Feeling faint or on the point of collapse is so common in anxiety. I have never heard of anyone with anxiety actually collapsing. It may have happened, but in all my considerable experience with anxiety I realise it must be very rare. What's wrong with your English? It seems fine to me. Keep accepting and not fighting the problem.
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    How Do We Help Them Understand?

    The cruel fact is that unless you experience real anxiety you will never know. Worry is not like anxiety. People worry, but when the situation passes they go about their business and forget it. We don't! Sympathy is fine. OK, so they care but do they understand? Sympathy is not empathy. Empathy is described as "Entering into the suffering of another as if it were your own". How can you do that unless you know what its really like, and to do that you have to have suffered yourself. Some doctors and heath professionals are full of theory, but few have felt the real pain of anxiety. There is an anxiety website in Canada that will only employ those who have had anxiety for counselling. I remember when in the throes of GAD that I heard someone say, 'Yes, well, he's a bit, you know'. It took days for me to get over that comment. People can be cruel. Maybe not intentionally but cruel nevertheless. Very few will take the trouble to find out about anxiety. It's because they fear any form of so called 'mental' condition. Oh yes, they will give you a blow by blow account of their operations and illnesses, but clam up when it comes to a real mental issue. I think the feeling of isolation and being alone, even when surrounded by well-wishers, is one of the worse symptoms of anxiety. But we are not alone, and websites like this one prove that. Everyone on here understands because they KNOW. Real knowledge about anxiety can never come from anyone who has not been there. So take heart friends, you are NOT alone.
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    Liver Retest

    Hi. zingiber. I know how you feel because I lost my wife last November. I found it a help to look at the Sue Ryder website Forum because it makes you realise how others cope in such sad times. The loss is so great that it's impossible to describe to anyone, and everyone has to cope in their own way. Grieving is a very personal thing. Your anxiety has clicked in because of the strain of the last few months because, I presume, like me, there was a period of illness and even caring before it happened. Nothing can ever replace a lost loved one, and memory can be a real problem. I find mornings so difficult to cope with, and that's why I come on here as often as I can because trying to help others helps me too. For peace of mind you should go and have a check-up. It's very unlikely to have a health problem, but you must get some reassurance from those who know. If your doctor is in any way understanding he/she will know what's wrong. You have my deepest sympathy so I send you blessings and prayers. Jon.
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    Panicking - Rodent Illnesses

    Hi. Wingnut. 140 is not very high. If you dad is middle aged it will be higher than a younger person obviously. 100 is a bit high but it's the top figure they go by more than the lower. I should certainly suggest you go to the doctors if only to ease your mind. Blood pressure can be a tricky thing to diagnose because it depends on so many factors. Gender, height, weight, smoking, drinking lifestyle worry etc. Rat droppings should not cause a problem if you wash your hands after handling that sort of stuff. Please go and have a check-up. You will feel better when you are told it's all OK.
  9. I have forgotten where I was going while driving multiple times, when I see a movie or show and the commercials are on I forget what I’m watching, Oh yes!!! It happens to me often. In the evenings while watching TV I often nod off then wake up and there's another movie on, and it leaves me wondering what happened at the end of the last one!! I will never know unless it's repeated. While driving I sometime forget where I am or where I'm going. Now to a person who has just got into the anxiety trap it can be so frightening. But they are not going crazy, just a tired mind that goes off in all directions. I put a meal in the oven then forget to put the timer on! . I go out and can't remember if I locked the door! I get to the grocery store and forget what I came for so I have to write it down! Now you see how we all suffer this way. So called 'normal' people have the same problem when they are busy, as my friends tell me. But it doesn't bother me any more. I just take it as it comes. So what! Does any of it really matter? It's called Life and all the time we are alive it will happen. Getting uptight about it makes it worse. If you forget something have a laugh. I know it's difficult but try and keep a sense of humour.
  10. Hi. Sarnad. First of all let's clear something up. YOU ARE NOT GOING CRAZY. NO WAY!!! When we have acute anxiety we tend to turn in on ourselves so that the outside world may seem unreal. Also our thoughts become confused. We forget where we put something, or can't remember someone's name, or where we have been that day. Common in anxiety? Oh Yeah!!!! You have to remember that you are in a state of fear. You are you know because anxiety must be accompanied by fear. No fear no anxiety. This is so difficult to understand to anyone new to anxiety. 'But I'm not fearful' you may say. Not consciously maybe, but an underlying fear must exist for you to be anxious. We often behave irrationally. People may think, well he/she seems a bit odd today. (Let them. So what!!!). A tired mind, and that's what most have during or after a bout of anxiety, will conjure up all sorts of illusions and the answer is to just accept them. Don't ever fight or struggle with unwanted thoughts. Fighting creates more problems because fighting is tension. You make a battleground in your mind. Try and rise above the battleground and look at it from above yourself. The more you expect lapses of memory or phases of panic you just add fuel to the fire. Take it easy. ACCEPT it all for the moment.Everything passes and so will this. Take care!
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    palpitations in upper right abdomen

    Hi. kvndl2. The 'fluttering' is your nerves reacting to stress. Anxiety affects people in so many different ways according to your life style, your way of thinking and your temperament. This fear you have of 'something is wrong' is causing more symptoms to arise because you are stoking the fires with fear, which is always at the bottom of anxiety. No fear no anxiety! The more you concentrate on symptoms the worse it gets. The old vicious circle clicks in. Symptom/fear/anxiety/symptom/fear and so on. We have nerves all over the body that react in different ways to fear. You have created a situation where your body is responding to anxiety. I say 'you have created' but it's not strictly true. It's mostly unconscious. You don't do it deliberately but as time goes by it becomes a habit. Fear can become a habit and has to be broken. Your migraines are almost certainly the result of anxiety. Most people with migraines are anxious people. No one really knows what causes migraines, but the general medical opinion is that it's stress, which is related to anxiety. Let it flutter. It's only nerves twitching, but the more you make of it the worse it will get.
  12. Hi. Chase. Welcome to AC. Yes, it's a typical symptom of OCD. BUT, not to worry. It happens to so many and can take a variety of forms, all of which are possible to resolve. This is just a variation on a theme. Some people have rituals they have to go through before they can do something. That feel they have to and there is no point in telling them to stop because it's 'silly' or 'childish'. It's not at all, so don't listen to those who know nothing about anxiety and its symptoms. Now I have to say that it's your fear of what's happening that is prolonging the OCD. You should see your GP or Therapist because it does need treatment. The longer you put it off the more it will bug you. Your GP may prescribe some medication that slows that part of your mind down. Honest, this is so common in anxiety. OCD is part of anxiety's many facets of which there are hundreds. You are not alone by any means as you will see if you read the posts on the site. When you feel you have to do what you do then fine. Do it, but try and take the fear out of it. OCD can cause many people to want to wash their hands every hour all day. SO?? If they do it without fear and ACCEPT it for what it is, a temporary affair, then it will lessen and eventually go. It's the fear of it that perpetuates it. Yes, it is normal in anxiety. There are no end to the tricks anxiety can play on you. You are being bluffed into believing something about yourself that is a lie. YOU ARE NOT GOING CRAZY!! OK?? You may be overtired and when that happens the mind loses its resilience. We can't seem to reason as we did before. Any answers you get from others here will be from experience, that's why we are on this site, to help each other. Try not to worry about the problem Let it happen but without adding fear to it.
  13. Hi. Sailor. What a wonderful post as always. Hope you are well. Melissa. Read what Sailor has written over and over. Get it all firmly in your mind because it's the truth. She knows because she has been where you are, and so have I. But we are both still here. It's fear of fear that's the problem. She talks about 'second fear' and it's the key to understanding panic. When you panic let it come. YES I do mean that. Don't be afraid of how you feel, it won't harm you nasty as it is. Then try not to panic because you panic. That's second fear. If you allow the panic to die down as it always does because the amount of adrenaline released is limited, then take deep breaths and get on with what you are doing. If it happens again then do the same thing, allow it to happen. No fighting or struggling with it. OK?
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    Freaking out so much!!

    You are trying too hard. ACCEPTANCE is not to try anything. Give in! (Not give up, that's different). But give up any ideas you may have about 'getting rid if 'IT''. You will lose that battle for sure. Let go. Go with the flow. Give up the struggle. Buddhists talk of 'Action through no action'. By ACCEPTING you are acting with great effect, even though you appear to be doing nothing. By doing nothing you are doing everything possible to relieve anxiety. I do understand how difficult this is to grasp. We feel we must always 'do' something about 'IT', but that's what 'IT' wants you to do. If you do nothing the 'IT' has nothing to fasten on to.
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    Freaking out so much!!

    I do appreciate that It's difficult to believe anxiety can do all the things it does to us. If we had a full appreciation of what it can do we would be well on the way to resolving it. But it's the disbelief, even after being told by the medics we are OK, that causes the problem. We must believe. We need to say to ourselves after a negative test, " Well, that's it. I have been told by experts I'm OK so I will drop it". Easy? Oh no, not by any means. We have become so obsessed with the problem that it fills almost our whole day. Just ACCEPT that's how it is for the moment. I can't emphasis enough the importance of not fighting and struggling. You are attacking yourself. Give up the struggle! Just let what will come come. ACCEPT IT. See it all for what it is, smoke and mirrors in Mr. Anxiety's box of tricks.